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“Thus the whole technical effort of Surrealism, from its very beginning up to the present day, has consisted in multiplying the ways to penetrate the deepest layers of the mental.”
- Andre Breton, Surrealist Situation of the Object, 1935
I am new to tribe.net and this tribe, and it’s really heartening to find this tribe and see so many members. Creatively, I’ve been kind of a lapsed surrealist lately; logic and proportion have ruled my endeavors. After years of walking through the wilderness, I’m looking forward to some stimulating communications with fellow travelers.
I always interpreted surrealism as opening the door of the unconscious and of chance into the conscious world, and the artistic creations are sort of snap shots of what was experienced in the moment. The original surrealism was more than an artistic movement - there was also an esoteric side that ranges from the trances of the early twenties to Breton’s writings after the break with communism. He quotes Rimbaud: “we must all be seers”.
What I ‘m wondering about is, what kind of surrealist activities do the fellow tribe members take part in, either alone or in a group? Trance states, exquisite corpse games, derangement of the senses, collages, chance operations, use of psychoactive substances, found objects? And how do you translate these experiences into physical artifacts? How do you open yourself to the surreal experience, and how do you capture it for others to experience?
In my own life, I have used all of the above at one time or another, alone and in various combinations. As a student I wrote stream of consciousness poetry and short prose, and some drawings, usually after use of psychoactive substances. Years later, I started making sculptures out of clay that resembled the drawings of my youth, then went through a phase of found object sculpture from junk on the street, and as I progressed in using tools I went into wood carving. I’m highly influenced by tribal masks and sculpture (as this is another door into the unconscious), so most of my works are some sort of anthropomorphic being, which I think of as someone I met on my adventures – either I was breaking through another dimension to meet them, or they were coming across to me.
- Andre Breton, Surrealist Situation of the Object, 1935
I am new to tribe.net and this tribe, and it’s really heartening to find this tribe and see so many members. Creatively, I’ve been kind of a lapsed surrealist lately; logic and proportion have ruled my endeavors. After years of walking through the wilderness, I’m looking forward to some stimulating communications with fellow travelers.
I always interpreted surrealism as opening the door of the unconscious and of chance into the conscious world, and the artistic creations are sort of snap shots of what was experienced in the moment. The original surrealism was more than an artistic movement - there was also an esoteric side that ranges from the trances of the early twenties to Breton’s writings after the break with communism. He quotes Rimbaud: “we must all be seers”.
What I ‘m wondering about is, what kind of surrealist activities do the fellow tribe members take part in, either alone or in a group? Trance states, exquisite corpse games, derangement of the senses, collages, chance operations, use of psychoactive substances, found objects? And how do you translate these experiences into physical artifacts? How do you open yourself to the surreal experience, and how do you capture it for others to experience?
In my own life, I have used all of the above at one time or another, alone and in various combinations. As a student I wrote stream of consciousness poetry and short prose, and some drawings, usually after use of psychoactive substances. Years later, I started making sculptures out of clay that resembled the drawings of my youth, then went through a phase of found object sculpture from junk on the street, and as I progressed in using tools I went into wood carving. I’m highly influenced by tribal masks and sculpture (as this is another door into the unconscious), so most of my works are some sort of anthropomorphic being, which I think of as someone I met on my adventures – either I was breaking through another dimension to meet them, or they were coming across to me.
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Re: Surrealist Activities?
Sun, December 31, 2006 - 1:41 PMWell, like you I've used most of these methods at some point. I do a lot of word collages, I'm big on chance encounters, found objects, and such things. When I was younger I was more into the derangement of the senses (via sleep deprivation, etc), but lately that's not been of interest. This year I just wandered around a lot, took lots of pictures, etc. -
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Re: Surrealist Activities?
Mon, January 1, 2007 - 3:23 PM"The simplest Surrealist act consists of dashing down into the street, pistol in hand, and firing blindly, as fast as you can pull the trigger, into the crowd." -- Andre Breton, Second Manifesto of Surrealism -
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Re: Surrealist Activities?
Mon, January 1, 2007 - 3:47 PMPerhaps the simplest, but not so creative. I don't think Breton every tried this, nor would anyone get to far trying it. This statement may have been the inspiration for the movie El Topo, a very surreal but violent western. Some how it also reminds me of the current situation in Iraq.
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Re: Surrealist Activities?
Wed, January 3, 2007 - 6:08 AMI guess this might come under the category of " chance operations"?
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Re: Surrealist Activities?
Sun, January 14, 2007 - 6:50 PMHello Rustic Rambler and others here. I've been inactive on this forum for months but have finally updated my profile and looked at things again.
My orientation in surrealism involves automatic and semi-automatic sound and poetry, improvised movement, hypnagogic research, dream recording, paying attention to chance events, urban exploration, writing the occasional essay, and studying surrealism and inspired states in general. Those moments when the unconscious and the conscious merge and supplement each other can be truly marvellous and revelatory. And all the different surrealist groups and individuals throughout its history have so much to teach us even if the social context around us has changed a lot. There are still many surrealists who are barely translated into english and thus remain generally obscure. I'm thinking of people like Gherasim Luca, who had a lot of interesting and suggestive ideas.
All for now,
Shibek